Mattie

been redrawing his hair for the millionth time ajkfcsdvgdergv

 

 

3 minutes ago, aly said:

I also learned new information that I’ve always thought was different. & I understand wanting to further discuss it, but I hope that isnt the intent like you said

 

It’s not about what was said, I know it’s a discussion. I think it’s more how it was said. like BrushYrTeeth said above, I think lots of things were taken out of context/not the way they were supposed to sound.

 

mmm yea i found this an interesting discussion so i wanted to be more serious 

not intended to be sounding like a bully/b*tch tho!  

 

@aly I dont think we were specifically attacking cupsu? We just had a disagreement with eachothers opinions which can happen. I dont see how that can be "attacking for no reason" .

I respect her opinions on this topic and its nice to know what other people are thinking about this subject but that doesnt mean i can agree with some they have stated. 

This is called a discussion after all.

 

 

@Cupsu i appreciate your opinions but it seems like you were saying that "we" as artists made up those rules about protecting ourself while its not. The rules were made for the artists by the law to protect them.

 

I understand that as a buyer, you dont want to linger your old stuff around and should be put in a better place than your ol dusty folder, but please please pleaaase dont say its the artists their fault for not hauling in customers because they dont want to accept reselling or protecting their right as a artist and see it as a selfish action.

 

 

I dont see protecting our own right of the original art as a artist as "selfish" ??? 

If some people really think that as "selfish" then its really... rreaäaally wrong to believe that. Like Alismora said, the rights of the art is still ours and youre just buying the permission for your personal use. 

 

I find this examples given a good good example.

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pay monthly for Netflix or Disney+, you’re only paying for the right to watch the movies and shows.  You purchase BTS’ latest album on iTunes, you’re paying for the right to listen to the songs. Some contracts grant you different permissions, but you never own the content, someone else does.

 

Like i understand if the art doesnt interest you anymore, you would want it to give it to someone else who is. 

I dont mind it giving for free since giving have always has been a nice gesture to me.

But re-selling it for a compensation after a short amount of time is what bother me sometimes... ^_^" 

I dont see them as the "same"

 

Heh.. i even bought items of artists on conventions or ordered personally because i like it and like i said it earlier, the thought of reselling of items i bought in the past never occured to me. 

 

There is even art in my folder thats back from ... from 2010 and its still.. never trown away xd even tho my old laptop kinda went to heaven... and my recent laptop is getting there soon ... too 

I have lots o old art that i bought or for got free that i still havent used (waaaaa sorry my fellow artists!)

But still never occured to me to resell/give away the pieces xd

 

Sometimes like martini, i still use em from time to time.  

 

My spelling and putting in words might be off.. i just woke up heh

I think its better to have personal permission to resell from the original artist to not break any copyright rule...

BUT its better like, an server on Discord of the original Artist him/herself where she/he created a re-sell channel especially

so that he/she can keep up who got what art (keep track)

 

and if want namechanges on the art can ask the artist there personally i guess to avoid confusion

 

For me the "premades" i see it as a stand alone portrait you may use and not really as adopt like on DA or FA.

 

When you yourself created the character and reselling em later is your choice because it is your design. So i dont really see a problemo

 

But when it comes at bought portraits(premades), I see it as "personal" and not like a kid youve just adopted you gonna send away anyways. 

Its like you bought an painting but send em to the marketplace because it doesnt fit with the color in your livingroom anyways.

 

With adopts i see it as kids tho. 

You adopt literally a whole character. All the art you've commissioned is of that "character" only. They may be having diff outfits but .. thats what kidss do ... right? Changing clothes, having a story, emotion, personality etc. 

 

Reselling an adopt is like sending em away HAHAHAHHA

Same with Martini above me with bought art from others

 

When i buy art, its because i like it but its also because I want to support the artists aswell. I would never resell one of the art i have bought. Even if i have financial issieus i would never use my babies as a goldsafe to earn money from by reselling em. they are precious to me personally. 

 

I still even use art ive got 3 a 4 yrs ago xd 

 

Reselling never occured to me till when i saw a lot were reselling pieces of artists i support.

 

 

I also agree with the point Pey has been giving.

What if, you stated "you can resell the bought artwork" in your rules

 

After half a year, the art is prob at Person F.

When you think its at Person B.

 

Its all just a big hassle

ooof ill copy paste what i said in Discord xd

 

As an artist, it kinda feel like -> 

since youve put so many effort into making something personal for your client but when not even a month is passed and he/she is asking to be resold. It feels like your work wasnt even worth to be keeping.

But thats my opinion tho I agree it can be resell as an object like Moose said but sometimes its kinda eh when you see that work getting passed from the one to the other..

 

well i could also see it as "I already got the money so idc" but i dont feel it that way ...

 

but i also feel like... when buyers buy it in idk ... 0.01 seconds? but then resell a week later it kinda breaks my heart you know...

when it gets passed to someone else that quickly even after that much effort for waiting for a artwork not giving others a chance.

But when they re-sell the piece, its not the same as when buying straight from the artist to support your artist but you'll be supporting a reseller. as a artist i am glad someone is liking it but not in this way tho :\

 

on trading art for art (already bought art)

well... i feel 50/50 on that its either my art is on par with the traded art or mine was less worth/not their liking and made some good trade to get something they might like better

but since i dont judge that much im more into the "on par with the traded art"

 

but ... like when you're an artist but sell multiple "prints" since its fanart or not personal commissioned, I dont mind when you resell the print item you've bought straight from the artist since its not "personal"

 

I just feel this towards premades/customs not mass sale

 

also resellers sell em lower than when you buy at the OG artist

since most of the artists dont allow them to sell higher than the original price

and to get "rid" of em, resellers sometimes lower the worth

which hurts me even more

 

IDK its just my opinion

@Susi  This one is made by Elly but im not sure if shes on this gasr too

 

4 hours ago, Beu said:

Artwork: 
Approx. Date Received: September 2017 through November 2017
Artist's Name:  Not Found Yet

 

im sure thats made by @Mara

@HoneyBear 1st one looks like a collab from crezman1@old GASR & @Hibernate ?

 

@Hiroki mashiro at old gasr didnt joined new gasr and would likely not join either so it will still stay mashiro 

He is Alexidas @ DA if that helps

 

@ThePreciousAdorableDragon you are ment to draw what the person above you have requested with your non-dominant hand  like the rules in the first post said.

 

Drew on my tablet  lol 

 

Person below me draw a bird being dissapointed